Q: How do you know that God exists by rational / scientific means?

A: How do you know how rain or space or the sun really came about? Science can't tell us that.

Q: Ok but wait we experience them through our senses and there is a large amount of things we do know about them. And btw you can't answer a question by saying that everything else doesn't really have an explanation either so its justifiable.

A: But if science can't explain how certain things come about, its clear that it's not a perfect method to understanding the world around us.

Q: You're right but we're humans, we can't be expected to be perfect, and science is the way we understand most of our world. So why does God not tell explain to us in our own terms?

A: That's faith. How else do you believe that everything around you is real although science does not explain them?

Q: But that's information liquidpaper. Do you mean to say we should fill in the loops in our beliefs by faith? The things around us we experience through our senses, so even though we don't have a clue how they come about, we know they do exist.

A: Which brings us back to our original discussion. You don't understand them fully but you still believe in them.

Q: Yes, but as I said, we experience them through our senses. We know alot more about soil, and trees, and kanye west than we know about God.

A: There are some things that are beyond our understanding.

Q: I just don't see why he can't explain things to us in our own terms. It's not our fault we're abit more dense. Assuming he made us, he knows we have limitations to our understanding of him. Why should he expect us to believe him?

A: Well God doesn't give us all the info cuz we're supposed to find it for ourselves. Otherwise where is the free choice and real belief?

Q: But if we're not capable of understanding him fully, beyond our human scientific understanding, how does he expect us to really believe him fully? It's like a father expecting his mentally disabled child to fully make sense of the world around him.

A: But that's faith.

Q: Ok but wait let's go back to Adam. Why did God allow Adam to screw up fully aware of the fact that he was going to sin?

A: It was Adam's choice to eat the apple.

Q: God made him imperfect. If Adam was perfect he wouldn't have screwed up.

A: I hate apples.